Legislature(2005 - 2006)HOUSE FINANCE 519

03/15/2006 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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HOUSE BILL NO. 312                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An Act relating to pregnant  women; requiring hospitals,                                                                   
     schools,  and  alcohol  licensees  and  permit  tees  to                                                                   
     distribute information  about fetal alcohol  effects and                                                                   
     fetal alcohol  syndrome; relating to the  consumption of                                                                   
     alcoholic  beverages  by  and  the sale  or  service  of                                                                   
     alcoholic  beverages  to  a  pregnant  woman;  requiring                                                                   
     involuntary  commitment  of  a pregnant  woman  who  has                                                                   
     consumed  alcohol; creating  a fund  for the  prevention                                                                   
     and  treatment  of  fetal  alcohol  syndrome  and  fetal                                                                   
     alcohol effects; relating  to fines and to the taking of                                                                   
     permanent   fund  dividends   for  selling  or   serving                                                                   
     alcoholic  beverages to pregnant  women; and  increasing                                                                   
     taxes on sales of alcoholic  beverages to fund treatment                                                                   
     and  education related  to  fetal  alcohol syndrome  and                                                                   
     fetal alcohol effects.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:36:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRUCE  WEYHRAUCH, SPONSOR, explained  that the                                                                   
legislation  came  forward  to  address  the  serious  matter                                                                   
relating to  Fetal Alcohol Spectrum  Disorder (FASD).   It is                                                                   
deplorable  that Alaska  ranks first  in the  Nation for  the                                                                   
highest  number of  children born  with FASD.   The bill  has                                                                   
evolved,  being amended  in the  House HESS  Committee.    He                                                                   
added that  there is  at least one  amendment to  the version                                                                   
before the Committee.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:38:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JACQUELINE  TUPOU,  STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE  BRUCE  WEYHRAUCH,                                                                   
said  the saddest  fact  is that  FASD  is 100%  preventable.                                                                   
FASD is the leading cause of mental  retardation in the State                                                                   
of Alaska.   She  stressed the  problem in  Alaska is  large.                                                                   
FASD  can  cause birth  defects,  retarding  brain  function,                                                                   
arrested  emotional  and  physical  development,  cause  poor                                                                   
behavior, deformed  facial features and harming  learning and                                                                   
sleeping patterns.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Tupou  stated that it has  been estimated that  the State                                                                   
of Alaska will pay $3.1 million  dollars over the lifetime of                                                                   
each  child with  FASD.   Right  now,  that  cost amounts  to                                                                   
approximately $45  million dollars a year paid  by the State.                                                                   
Every  department  is affected  by  the costs  associated  by                                                                   
FASD.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Tupou  explained the  changes that had  been made  to the                                                                   
House HESS version:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   ·    It requires a continuing education component for                                                                        
        doctors and nurses;                                                                                                     
   ·    It provides for an educational requirement targeting                                                                    
        schools and hospitals; and                                                                                              
   ·    It institutionalizes continuing education, training                                                                     
        and diagnosis.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The legislation  is a  small step  forward in addressing  the                                                                   
vast problem throughout Alaska.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:41:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Weyhrauch pointed  out the  five zero  inter-                                                                   
departmental  notes and  the one  fiscal impact  note by  the                                                                   
Department  of  Health  and  Social   Services.    Ms.  Tupou                                                                   
corrected,  there  are three  fiscal  impact  notes from  the                                                                   
Department of Health and Social Services.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:42:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PUBLIC TESTIMONY                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DIANE   CASTO,    MANAGER,   PREVENTION/EARLY    INTERVENTION                                                                   
SERVICES,  DIVISION  OF  BEHAVIORAL   HEALTH,  DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                   
HEALTH &  SOCIAL SERVICES, testified  that the  Department of                                                                   
Health  and   Social  Services  is   in  favor  of   HB  312,                                                                   
emphasizing  that FASD  is preventable.    She mentioned  the                                                                   
social belief  that drinking  during pregnancy is  acceptable                                                                   
in  certain circumstances.    Ms. Casto  discussed,  drinking                                                                   
during pregnancy  is not okay at  any time by anyone.   There                                                                   
are still medical providers that  still do tell women that it                                                                   
is okay  to drink  in moderation.   The  reality is  that the                                                                   
part  of   the  brain  most   impacted  by  alcohol   evolves                                                                   
throughout the  entire pregnancy.   There is no safe  time to                                                                   
drink alcohol.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Casto addressed  developmental issues  related to  FASD.                                                                   
She termed the  bill a building block and shared  the history                                                                   
of progress  relating to the issue.   She mentioned  a survey                                                                   
about to  be disbursed  that will  provide much needed  data.                                                                   
Training  is an  important  aspect  of the  service  delivery                                                                   
system.   The intent of the  legislation is to work  with the                                                                   
systems already in place that are working.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Casto advised  that  currently, there  are  a number  of                                                                   
functioning diagnostic teams.   In the past year, a series of                                                                   
regional  summits were  held to  identify the  needs of  each                                                                   
community.   HB 312  closely aligns with  what people  in the                                                                   
public are recommending.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Casto  urged that prevention  issues be addressed.   FASD                                                                   
requires a two-pronged approach:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   · Prevention, and                                                                                                            
   · Early services in place.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:50:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kelly  questioned   if  other  states   were                                                                   
treating  it as a  crime.   Ms. Casto  replied, a few  states                                                                   
have  found  that many  of  the  women with  serious  alcohol                                                                   
problems are  not receiving services.   Women, who  would ask                                                                   
for  help,  stopped  seeking  services  when  a  penalty  was                                                                   
imposed.   A  better plan  would  be intervention,  including                                                                   
services and that  pregnant women should have  a priority for                                                                   
substance abuse treatment.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly inquired  about forcibly  incarcerating                                                                   
women.       Ms.   Casto    asked   further    clarification.                                                                   
Representative   Kelly  restated  his   query.     Ms.  Casto                                                                   
addressed  the involuntary  commitment statute;  there  are a                                                                   
few states,  which have  addressed it with  some of  the same                                                                   
problems following  that method with the women  going "under-                                                                   
ground", not  coming forward  for services  out of fear.   In                                                                   
Alaska, there  is an involuntary commitment  statute allowing                                                                   
family members to go through the courts to commit a person.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:54:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Holm  questioned   the  Alaska  FASD   ratio                                                                   
compared nationally  per 1,000  FASD cases.   Ms. Casto  said                                                                   
that,  unfortunately, Alaska  is not  one of  the few  states                                                                   
that keep  good data on  it.  In  a five-state study,  Alaska                                                                   
was  significantly  higher,  1.6% per  1,000  for  full-blown                                                                   
FASD.   10% have  FAS and  85% have  a disability related  to                                                                   
prenatal exposure to alcohol.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holm shared his  concern about the  extent of                                                                   
the problem  and lack  of data  and solutions  from a  public                                                                   
health standpoint.   He  warned that  choice is involved  and                                                                   
that forced birth control might be a solution.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Casto corrected  assumptions made by  Representative Holm                                                                   
regarding  the   amount  of  available  data.     Alaska  has                                                                   
extensive  data and agreed  that there  is a  lot to  be done                                                                   
with it.  Contraception  is a large part of  the solution and                                                                   
it  is  included   in  the  current  version   of  the  bill.                                                                   
Additionally, it is  important to look at FASD  from a public                                                                   
health  standpoint.   She thought  the  Department could  not                                                                   
support  mandatory   birth  control.    Representative   Holm                                                                   
clarified that  the data he  was referring to  was statistics                                                                   
that  show a  decrease or  increase due  to the  Department's                                                                   
intervention.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Casto  shared  her history  in the FASD  program and  the                                                                   
results of having a State registry.   Data shows that FASD is                                                                   
not frequently reported.  She  described the data changes due                                                                   
to better  reporting and  that education  should result  in a                                                                   
decline  of  FASD  in  the  birthrate.    The  Birth  Defects                                                                   
Registry Data  only goes through  1998; currently,  the State                                                                   
has increased  their ability to diagnose the  condition, with                                                                   
increased education  among medical providers, there  has been                                                                   
an increase in reports.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:04:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holm voiced  frustration about  lack of  data                                                                   
regarding significant reductions  in FASD.  He asked what the                                                                   
Legislature  could  do  to  help.    He  suggested  mandatory                                                                   
incarceration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Casto  emphasized that  the Department  has done  quite a                                                                   
lot through awareness  campaigns.  Behavior  has changed with                                                                   
those who  do not have  a substance abuse  problem.   Now the                                                                   
focus is  on women who do  having a drinking problem.   Early                                                                   
intervention must  reach the women  who need substance  abuse                                                                   
treatment before they become pregnant.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:08:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair Stoltze pointed out  that the intended beneficiary                                                                   
of the bill is  the unborn child.  He wondered  if such a law                                                                   
could actually be  enforced on those who have  a disregard of                                                                   
life.   Representative  Weyhrauch  said they  had not  gotten                                                                   
into that.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:10:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule  commented that he had sat  on the State                                                                   
Drug and  Alcohol Control  Board in the  1980's when  FAS was                                                                   
relatively  unknown.  He  commented on  the magnitude  of the                                                                   
problem and  maintained that education  needs to  be constant                                                                   
because  change  comes  slowly.     The  State  needs  to  be                                                                   
consistent.   The  most compelling  fact is  the cost to  the                                                                   
State  every  year at  $45  million  dollars.   The  proposed                                                                   
legislation will  save the State a  lot of money in  the long                                                                   
run.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:13:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer acknowledged everyone  is passionate about the                                                                   
concern.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kerttula  addressed   the   intent  of   the                                                                   
registry.  Mr. Casto explained  that the information would be                                                                   
carefully guarded  and that the names would  not be released.                                                                   
The registry helps track the concerns.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:15:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURA ROREM, PARENT  NAVIGATOR ON THE FETAL  ALCOHOL SYNDROME                                                                   
DIAGNOSTIC  (FASD)  TEAM,  ADVOCATE FOR  PERSONS  WITH  FASD,                                                                   
JUNEAU, introduced herself and her affiliation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
LARRY ROREM, PASTOR,  SHEPPARD OF THE VALLEY  LUTHERN CHURCH,                                                                   
MEMBER OF THE  JUNEAU FETAL ALCOHOL SYNDROME  DISORDER (FASD)                                                                   
TEAM, JUNEAU,  explained the  role of  his church in  serving                                                                   
"marginalized"  people  in  the   community.    Pastor  Rorem                                                                   
interwove  his involvement with  the church  and that  of his                                                                   
two adopted FASD adult children.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rorem discussed  HB  312.   She addressed  the  lifetime                                                                   
reality of adopting  two children with FASD,  with whom State                                                                   
services claimed were  healthy at the time of  adoption.  She                                                                   
presented a photo picture book of her adult children.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Pastor  Rorem compared  his life  to a recent  fire at  their                                                                   
church; that fire  did not show itself on the  surface or the                                                                   
outside  of  the church,  but  inside,  there  was a  lot  of                                                                   
damage.    Their  adult children  suffer  from  severe  brain                                                                   
damage.   They have little  support systems within  the State                                                                   
of Alaska.   He urged something  be done to help  prevent the                                                                   
damage  occurring for  both the  person with  FASD and  their                                                                   
caretakers.  The  "garbage dump" for these people  is usually                                                                   
prison.  Anything that can be  done to prevent the foundation                                                                   
damage and apply the appropriate repairs is vital.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rorem stressed  how important passage of HB  312 is as it                                                                   
addresses  the  prevention.   It  provides for  education  of                                                                   
professionals.  Lifetime costs  for FASD are outrageous.  She                                                                   
noted  that they  call  their  children the  "million  dollar                                                                   
babies" because  so much has been  spent on their care.   Ms.                                                                   
Rorem stated  that they are  exhausted by the  realities that                                                                   
await their  children.   Both of  these young people  express                                                                   
anger  toward  the effects  that  alcohol  has had  on  their                                                                   
lives.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:22:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer voiced his appreciation for their testimony.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RIC IANNOLINO, JUNEAU FETAL ALCOHOL  SYNDROME DISORDER (FASD)                                                                   
DIAGNOSTIC  CLINIC, JUNEAU,  read a  letter from  a child  he                                                                   
cares for with FAS, literally  a physical & mental disability                                                                   
with permanent and irreparable brain damage.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Iannolino   emphasized   that  approximately   60%   of                                                                   
individuals with FAS will end  up in prisons or mental health                                                                   
facilities.   About 50%  of Lemon  Creek incarcerated  people                                                                   
were prenatally exposed  to alcohol and it is  estimated that                                                                   
70%  of  the  children  in foster  care  were  exposed.    He                                                                   
mentioned  the  facial  features  of  some  with  FAS,  which                                                                   
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develop during  the 19-24    day of pregnancy.   He  made the                                                                   
analogy of the FASD tragedy to that of Hurricane Katrina.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Iannolino referenced comments  made by a physician at the                                                                   
University of  Washington, Dr. Stiscode, who  stated that the                                                                   
costs  associated  with all  alcohol  births  are very  high,                                                                   
particularly  those with  the FASD individuals.   Those  with                                                                   
secondary disabilities  resulting from FASD are  dropping out                                                                   
of school,  going  to jail,  stealing, experience  alcoholism                                                                   
and  homelessness.    Those individuals  actually  need  more                                                                   
services than those with full-blown FAS.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Iannolino provided information  on his background working                                                                   
with Tlinget-Haida  tribes of Alaska and the  lead agency for                                                                   
the  FAS diagnostic  clinic,  providing  research through  an                                                                   
international agency  studying FASD and his  involvement with                                                                   
the U.S. Indian  Health Service.  Most people  do not realize                                                                   
that  the average  person that  has a  child with  FAS is  35                                                                   
years old, white and professional.   The associated costs are                                                                   
huge; 54%  of children  in custody are  estimated to  be FAS.                                                                   
He stressed  the seriousness of  the concern and  the tragedy                                                                   
involved in the field.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:29:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holm asked if there  had been any reduction in                                                                   
the numbers.  Mr. Iannolino responded  that the concern is so                                                                   
huge and unbelievable.   The rates are very  high compared to                                                                   
the rest  of the country.   Canada has many more  services in                                                                   
place and  understands that support  services are the  way to                                                                   
address  the  vastness of  these  concerns.   He  urged  that                                                                   
treatment  and support  services be put  in place  throughout                                                                   
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:31:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holm  agreed it is a difficult  issue and that                                                                   
his wife,  a schoolteacher,  experienced extreme  frustration                                                                   
and sadness  in attempting  to deal  with the heartbreak  and                                                                   
concern.  He hoped to find a way to slow-down the process.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:31:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  indicated that  the  amendment  in the  file                                                                   
would be held for consideration at a late date.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SUESHANNA    FIONA    STEWART-CAMPBELL,     (TESTIFIED    VIA                                                                   
TELECONFERENCE),  FASD ADULT, FAIRBANKS,  stated that  she is                                                                   
an adult FAS survivor.  She commented  on the challenges that                                                                   
have kept her from functioning  fully in the world, stressing                                                                   
the difficulties accessing services.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Stewart-Campbell  referred   to  herself  as  a  "cookie                                                                   
cutter".  Life is raw for those  with FAS and many are deeply                                                                   
wounded in  their hearts and  souls. She stated  that because                                                                   
of her condition,  she has not been able to  live a rewarding                                                                   
life;  always  being either  homeless  or among  the  working                                                                   
poor.  She stressed that FASD  diagnostic teams could provide                                                                   
education  for the  public,  support groups  because  without                                                                   
diagnosis  and support,  these  people can  not discover  the                                                                   
beauty of their own truth and  talents.  She urged support to                                                                   
maintain and increase funding.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:39:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEANNE   GERHARBT-CYRUF,  (TESTIFIED   VIA   TELECONFERENCE),                                                                   
PARENTS, KIANA, spoke  on behalf of her six  children exposed                                                                   
to  prenatal  alcohol  and  now  FASD.    She  addressed  the                                                                   
continual  need for  services  for individuals  and  families                                                                   
impacted  by  FASD.   Her  children  range  between  six  and                                                                   
eighteen  years   of  age.     They  have  many   challenges,                                                                   
behavioral, social and language  and it affects their ability                                                                   
to function successfully.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Gerharbt-Cyruf stressed  that  unless  the concerns  are                                                                   
addressed daily, it is difficult  to understand the impact on                                                                   
individuals  and their  families.  These  are individuals  at                                                                   
risk.   She urged the legislation  be adopted and  moved from                                                                   
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:43:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KARA  NYQUIST,  (TESTIFIED  VIA   TELECONFERENCE),  ATTORNEY,                                                                   
ALASKA ASSOCIATION FOR HOMES FOR  CHILDREN (AAHC), ANCHORAGE,                                                                   
stated that among  the youth their agency serves,  as many as                                                                   
60%  suffer from  FASD.   There is  not a  diagnosis for  all                                                                   
those youth.   The program  has never adequately  been funded                                                                   
and consequently,  the agency  has not been  at a  point that                                                                   
they  could collect  adequate data.   Native  youth, at  this                                                                   
time,  are  the only  ones  being  diagnosed.   There  is  no                                                                   
funding for  non-Native youth.   The  young being served  are                                                                   
the ones coming back from residential  treatment programs and                                                                   
are  the ones  in the  foster care  system.   Those kids  are                                                                   
having   behavioral  problems   in  school   and  are   found                                                                   
throughout the criminal justice system.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Nyquist  noted AAHC  supports the  legislation and  hopes                                                                   
that   the  Legislature   will   adequately  fund   treatment                                                                   
programs.   The  Legislature keeps  complaining that  funding                                                                   
requests from  the Department  of Health and Social  Services                                                                   
keep increasing;  that is because the State  is not investing                                                                   
the necessary  dollars early on;  instead, treating  only the                                                                   
crisis.   A  crisis  already exists  and  funds  needs to  be                                                                   
invested in  diagnosing the data  of those youth  who already                                                                   
have  fetal  alcohol  syndrome.     She  reiterated,  current                                                                   
funding is  inadequate and that  the real issue is  not being                                                                   
addressed.   AAHC supports  HB 312 and  would like to  see it                                                                   
accompanied  with  adequate funding  so  it  can be  properly                                                                   
implemented.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:47:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL  BALDWIN,  (TESTIFIED   VIA  TELECONFERENCE),  MENTAL                                                                   
HEALTH THERAPIST,  ANCHORAGE, spoke  to his involvement  with                                                                   
FASD in  his counseling practice  and the devastating  impact                                                                   
of alcohol  on these  families.   He spoke  to other  problem                                                                   
areas that are  tied to the consequences of  prenatal alcohol                                                                   
exposure such as the high suicide & violence rates.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Baldwin  referenced  the  public health  issues  of  the                                                                   
legislation.   The  public health  approach changes  cultural                                                                   
beliefs about  alcohol and  more people  need to be  educated                                                                   
regarding these  concerns.  The system must  change; adequate                                                                   
funding is essential to help educate  the populace.  There is                                                                   
research  available that  upfront  dollars reduce  long-range                                                                   
costs  associated  with FASD.    He  echoed support  for  the                                                                   
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PATRICIA  SENNER,  (TESTIFIED   VIA  TELECONFERENCE),  CHAIR,                                                                   
LEGISLATIVE  COMMITTEE  FOR THE  ALASKA  NURSES  ASSOCIATION,                                                                   
ANCHORAGE,  advocated   for  greater  funding   reserved  for                                                                   
education  and  training  of nurses  addressing  FASD.    She                                                                   
stressed that many kids are misdiagnosed  and women are still                                                                   
not being educated  regarding the dangers of  drinking during                                                                   
pregnancy.  Health care providers  are not always recognizing                                                                   
these children.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Senner  recommended that  training for nurse  practioners                                                                   
must include  midwife  direct entry nurse  midwives as  well.                                                                   
Prevention is effective and will  change the way services are                                                                   
provided  for  those  kids.   Many  of  the  folks  currently                                                                   
getting training are FASD kids  themselves and are now having                                                                   
children of their own.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:53:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Senner mentioned  the "secret-drinking mothers",  as more                                                                   
people  know   that  they  should  not  be   drinking  during                                                                   
pregnancy.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:55:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHERYL SCOTT, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE),  PARENT OF FASD                                                                   
CHILD, STONE  SOUP GROUP, ANCHORAGE,  spoke to her  child and                                                                   
his  associated  FASD  disorder.     She  addressed  all  the                                                                   
conditions  that  occur  with  the  illness.    The  area  of                                                                   
developmental  disabilities is  vast.   The Stone Soup  Group                                                                   
has been  available to  provide support  for children  around                                                                   
the State with FASD and sharing  resource information.  It is                                                                   
families  that  cannot  access   in-home  support  that  need                                                                   
assistance  and are  in  crisis.   The  challenge is  finding                                                                   
appropriate  childcare.  She  stressed that  it is  a tragedy                                                                   
because  these children  often  do not  physically look  like                                                                   
they suffer from FAS.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Scott  recommended family  camps.   The Stone Soup  Group                                                                   
has  been researching  the issue  since 1997  to determine  a                                                                   
strategy to help  these children.  She emphasized  the number                                                                   
currently living in foster care  because their birth families                                                                   
are in crisis.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB 312 was HELD in Committee for further consideration.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

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